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When MI6 Prime Minister Richard Moore talked about Russia and China in a chat by the fireplace at the Aspen Security Forum, Britain saw China as a “top priority” and Russia’s war effort in Ukraine was the highest. He even revealed that he had reached a high tide. “Complete failure.”
“When Putin and West met, they came up with the agreement with the words” no restrictions, “” Moore said. “Well …” No limit “is a ringing phrase. It’s a ringing phrase. When President Xi says these things, he means them, so I think we should listen hard. “
In his first camera interview outside the UK, Moore presents the complexities of international affairs, especially with regard to the challenge of staying “upstream” in China and many candid statements about its actions in Russia and Ukraine. I did. ..
Moore criticized China for “defeating Russian drums and selling Putin’s story about Ukraine” without irony. ” “They sell snake oil all over the world,” Moore said.
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He also pointed out Sri Lanka, which made “a truly misguided economic decision” by trusting China and preying on the Belt and Road Initiative, and raised the downside of doing business with China. He argued that the West showed a greater willingness to work in an “independent and creative” environment.
Most surprisingly, Moore labeled China as Britain’s top priority before its counterterrorism efforts.
“We are putting more effort into China,” Moore said. “We are now more focused on China than any other single subject.”
“So, for example, it just got over counterterrorism in terms of our mission, and it feels like a very big moment-since 9/11 in London, after 7/7-but it’s our mission. Reflects the seriousness of, “he added.
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China’s biggest challenge is “opaque,” especially after China shattered US espionage sources in 2010, killing or imprisoning at least 18 such agents and retreating the US for “decades.” It is to deal with the “na” system.
“But we have this great advantage over the Chinese, because we have friends. We have allies and the ability to take on this challenge in a reliable way. ”
The United States, United Kingdom, Australia, Canada and New Zealand share intelligence through a system called the Five Eyes Alliance. Moore argues that in addition to this alliance, which allows the free movement of information between the five countries, the United States, the United Kingdom, and its partners will provide “intermediate” to countries not provided by China and Russia. There is.
“As you know, there are many countries that may not share our values,” he said. “They may not share our political system, but when we try to compete with the Chinese, they are an important battlefield for us and we leave a blank in those places. If left, the Chinese will fill it. “
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Moore outlined how to “build relationships” with intelligence agencies in certain countries that “may fall into that category” and try to find a common ground.
“I haven’t left my values on the door,” he added, stressing that his values remain “important” to his service. “I’ll find a way to find something in common, and I think we have to do that, and some don’t look frankly at this as some set of 1950s cowboy movies. Hmm [where] The bad guys are wearing black hats and we are all wearing white hats. ”
“It’s a messy and contested world, and we have to get ready.”
One area where this preparation helped was to deal with the war of Russian President Vladimir Putin in Ukraine. Moore once again emphasized the value of knowing what Putin was trying to do before the invasion and how it led to many failures.
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“We were intelligence agencies in the United States and the United Kingdom and had great privileges on what we knew. [Putin’s] The plan was, and he had three things he wanted, “Moore said. [President Volodymyr] Zelensky, the second was to capture Kyiv, and the third was to disagree within the NATO alliance. “
“A quick look at these three … If you couldn’t catch Kyiv completely, I think it’s a failure.” It’s Russia suffering from a “very, very bloody nose.” He said that meant that.
He reiterated CIA Director William Burns’ estimation that Russia lost at least about 15,000 troops during the invasion, saying that Russia lost as many troops as it lost in its 10-year operation in Afghanistan. He said it was the same “modest” estimate. 1980s. Like Burns, he also said Putin wasn’t in poor health.
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He said Russia’s biggest failure of all resulted in increasing NATO’s power-again emphasizing the value of cooperation between Western allies to achieve their goals. With the addition of Sweden and Finland to the alliance, Moore believes NATO is stronger than ever.
“I never expected to see Sweden and Finland join in. [NATO]”Sweden is just giving up 200 years of neutrality to do that,” he said. So, in all of them, I think they count as epic failures. ”